Showing posts with label Joe Abercrombie. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Joe Abercrombie. Show all posts
Sunday, December 16, 2012
Mini Reviews
I've been absent from the blog for a couple of weeks. Mostly because I just haven't had the time. Work, family life, and writing (and Halo 4, let's be honest here) don't leave much time left over for blogging. Also, though, I got tired of the majority of my posts being book reviews. I'm not a book reviewer. I'm actually sick of going in-depth on book reviews, because I've had to be more of a critical reader than I want to be. Critical reading is great... sometimes. Most of the time, however, I just want to enjoy a book. Anyway, I will continue to post reviews but not as often, and I'm now (as the title of the post implies) going to be doing it a different way. From now on a book review post will include several books, and only have a paragraph about each. This will give me the chance to point out books I think you should read or avoid, but also let me do it in a less involved way. I don't want to dissect books anymore. I just want to enjoy them, damnit. And now the reviews...
Red Country, by Joe Abercrombie. This is Joe's latest standalone in his "First Law" world. It picks up several years after the end of his trilogy and continues the story of several characters readers have either come to hate or hate to love. Red Country is heavily influenced by western themes and story devices. I found it to be a bit too heavy handed most of the way through the book. I love westerns, and I love Joe Abercrombie, but the two should be a bit more distinct than they were in this book. Some parts of the story just felt like lazy add-ins because, hey, that's the kind of stuff you'd find in a western. The ending seemed less dreary than Abercrombie's usual fair, but the language and gore seemed pumped up from previous novels. Some parts were difficult to get through. Red Country gets 3 out of 5 stars.
Next up is Fevre Dream, by George R.R. Martin. This is the first of Martin's solo books I've read besides his massive epic, A Song of Ice and Fire. Also, it was my first true vampire novel. There was a lot about this book that I really loved. It takes place in the late 1850's, mostly aboard a steamboat called, you guessed it, Fevre Dream. The story takes us up and down the Missouri and Mississippi, through pre-civil war America. The characters were great, and the vampires weren't sparkly and pretty. They are monsters, as all proper vampires ought to be. The only problem I had with this book was its pacing. The ending dragged on and on. My mind wandered a bit in the slow parts and that is never a good sign. On a better note, those who have attempted to read A Game of Thrones and put it down for content, Fevre dream is much more a PG-13 book than an R. There aren't any sex scenes or F bombs. It is a horror novel, though, and so don't expect angsty teenagers looking for romance. People die. 4 out of 5 stars.
The last mini review for today is The Hobbit, by J.R.R. Tolkien. This is a book that is a bit harder to review because I've read it so many times. Usually the books I review are ones I've just finished for the first time, and so have a stronger sense of what I liked and disliked about them. In my head, The Hobbit is amazing. After listening to it again for maybe the fifth or sixth time, I notice lots of things that are somewhat annoying. Mostly it's the writer in me that finds problems with it, and that's only because the styles writers use today are quite a bit different than how Tolkien wrote. However, if you can look past the dated prose, and the endless songs and such that interfere with the story (very annoying on audio, despite the narrator trying his best to give each a tune of its own), then I think this book can be enjoyed by all readers of all ages. The story itself is timeless, and it holds a fond place in my memories. Read it if you haven't, and re-read it if its been a long time. you'll be happy you did. (And for those of you like me who listen rather than read, Audible recently released this and the Lord of the Rings trilogy unabridged for the first time. Good times.) The Hobbit takes the cake with 5 out of 5 stars.
Wednesday, October 19, 2011
Joe Abercrombie, and the gritty fantasy trend
I finished listening to The Heroes the other day, the latest from rising fantasy star, Joe Abercrombie. I'm still chewing over what to think about it. I've read every one of his books--there's only five, so it isn't some huge accomplishment--and I certainly feel that Heroes is the weakest to date, but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the book. I did. Let me tell you why I'm still trying to sort out exactly what I think about it, though.
To do that, I'll have to talk a bit about his previous four novels. I thought about reviewing each of them here individually, but it's been more than half a year since I've read some of them, so I'll just give my general impressions of each.
I really like how Joe is writing his stories. He started off with a trilogy, known as The First Law series. The books, in order, are: The Blade Itself, Before they are hanged, and Last Argument of Kings. And then he did two "standalones" Best Served Cold, and The Heroes (they take place in the same world as the First Law trio). I've read through all of them in a six month period, so am still quite familiar with each. Anyway, back to a review (sort of). I loved the trilogy. I finally found books as good as--or as close to as good as to make no difference to me--the first three books in George R.R. Martin's massive epic, A Song of Ice and Fire. Abercrombie's characters in the First Law series have such distinct voices, interesting pasts, and human flaws, that I think they are among my favorite to read about. Abercrombie's humor is dark, yet poignant; charming, yet frightening. He has such an understanding of the gray areas of morality that I find myself more than a little uncomfortable at imagining myself doing similar things as his characters, if placed in similar situations. If you haven't read any Abercrombie, start with The First Law series, and treat yourself to some amazing dark fantasy. You deserve it.
Abercrombie's first standalone, Best Served Cold, went too far down the dark road for my taste. It is a revenge tale all too comfortable with the idea of killing people to feel better. It is set five or so years after the end of Last Argument of Kings. Some of the minor characters in the trilogy are now the major ones in this book. I think it's cool when authors do this, though David Farland/Wolverton advises against it. Dave has said that an author will likely lose readers if he/she writes books in the same world with different viewpoint characters. (He did the very same thing in the later Runelord books and claims the drop in sales was noticeable). Abercrombie, however, is only gaining in popularity, so I hope that he is able to continue to pull it off the way he is doing it. I prefer shorter series (I blogged about this a few weeks back) but enjoy returning to familiar worlds.
In the beginning of Best Served Cold, there is a character who is trying to be "a better man." (SPOILER ALERT) I thought he gave up too easily on his goals. The main character, a woman who is trying to kill seven men responsible for her brother's death, seems too unchanged by the murders she commits throughout the story. My personal favorite revenge story is The Count of Monte Cristo (the book, not the awful Hollywood trash made into a movie ten years ago). Edmund really struggled with the man he was becoming in that book, and in the end, decided revenge wasn't what he wanted after all. Now I'm not saying every character who sets out for vengeance should make this decision in the end, but I wish Abercrombie would have shown his characters struggle a bit more. Okay, a lot more. But that's just me. I was just expecting different outcomes from the story. Not because he promised me a different outcome, though. He does a wonderful job at fulfilling every promise he makes to the reader in Best Served Cold.
On to The Heroes. It took me a couple of months to get to this one. I read Best Served Cold the week after I finished The First Law trilogy, thinking it would be more of the same Abercrombie, but was so put off by it that I didn't want to dive in to another one of Joe's books for a while. I read (listened to, really. I don't read much these days) ten or so books between BSC and Heroes, giving myself several months off of Abercrombie. (Aspiring writers, keep this in mind. Don't write a book that will turn readers off to your future stories!) I always knew I'd get to Heroes, however, because Abercrombie kicks ass. I just had to distance myself from BSC for a while. I'm happy to say that Heroes is nowhere near as dark as BSC, but it wasn't as memorable, either. The one good thing I can say (there's several good things, but I won't get into all of them right now) about BSC is that I reacted very strongly to its characters (just in a negative way). Only the best of writers can make me do this. Anyway, I'm getting off track. Heroes doesn't have any characters that are memorable. Oh sure, I remember all of them today. But that' s because I just finished the book last Friday. A month from now I'm betting I'll have forgotten half of them. By next year, probably all of them. I really wish there had been someone to latch on to in Heroes, but there just wasn't.
Because of this, I had a hard time getting into the story. Heroes is about a three day battle, and is more medieval military fiction than fantasy. This didn't bother me at all, since I love Bernard Cornwell's novels, which are almost always focused around one big battle. Some reviewers on Amazon complained about the lack of reason behind the battle in Heroes, but this didn't bother me either. Sometimes war is pointless. It happens because one guy says he's got bigger balls, and another guy disagrees. Sometimes it happens because one guy looked at another guy's sister the wrong way. War sucks, no matter how it starts. I do feel that individuals in war will have a clearer sense of their own goals, though, than the POV's in Heroes. Several of them seem to just wander aimlessly through fight after fight. Others don't seem to have important enough goals to earn the place of viewpoint. Also, none of the POV's in Heroes had the wit or charm that Abercrombie's characters have had in the past. This made me sad.
So, yes, Heroes is the weakest of Abercrombie's work. That isn't to say that it was boring, though. I still enjoyed the listen. And I'll still eagerly buy his next. Everyone writing fantasy today should read Abercrombie.
The Heroes gets 3 out of 5 stars.
Okay. Abercrombie was only half the reason for this post. I wanted to bring up some things that I've noticed about fantasy literature, post George R.R. Martin. Hopefully, we can have a discussion on this--which means you have to leave comments!
During the last decade there has been a slew of gritty, amoral fantasy. (I am in no way saying it didn't exist before then, only that I wasn't aware of it until reading GRRM about 8 years ago). Authors that I would consider to fall under this category are: George R.R. Martin, Joe Abercrombie, Scott Lynch, Ari Marmell, Daniel Polansky, and many others. These I've listed I have read, and so can reference their work. George, Joe, and Scott are quite popular, Ari and Daniel less so. (I'd never heard of either until recently). My question, that I hope to have some answers on, is do you think that this trend--gritty, violent, gray fantasy--is healthy? R rated fantasy, if you want a movie rating comparison.
Personally, I like the darker tales best. As long as they have a good ending. What constitutes a good ending differs from reader to reader, of course. But in my opinion, it has to include one very important thing: someone, whether protagonist, antagonist, or villain, has to become better by the end of the story. Better meaning good, or on the path to being good, or they've redeemed some past deed in some way. Who decides what is good or not? I do... for the books that I read. For example, (possible spoilers if you haven't read the third book in GRRM's series... or any of them for that matter. Skip the next paragraph if you wish to avoid them). Jaime Lannister.
Jaime begins A Song of Ice and Fire as one of the vilest, despicable characters I've ever read. He is in an incestuous relationship with his sister--who happens to be married to the king--he throws a child off the top of a tower, causing the child to be paralyzed from the waist down, he murdered the king he was sworn to guard 16 years in the past... the list goes on and on. He is seen as a villain in the first couple of books. Well, he gets captured in a battle, gets thrown in a dungeon, and eats a few slices of humble pie. In the third book, A Storm of Swords, he (BIG SPOILER) gets his sword hand cut off and can no longer act as a knight. At this point, he starts turning into, if not an honorable character, a sympathetic one. By the end of book 3, I was liking him more than any other character in the series... because he was on the path to becoming good--by trying to regain some of his spoiled honor. He was still a cocky jerk, but was starting to realize he didn't like being the cocky jerk. So for me, he had started on the road to redemption.
Scott Lynch's Gentlemen Bastard sequence (only two have been written, with five more planned) is another dark fantasy that I love (no spoilers). The first book, The Lies of Locke Lamora, is about a group of thieves out to screw the rich in their city. Their underground world is gritty, full of violence and filthy language. However, the main characters themselves are extremely likable because of their loyalty to each other, and their highly entertaining heists. I didn't have to get to the ending to like the characters in this book. I feel that this series so far is a lot more black and white than others mentioned, but the heroes are still thieves, so the grayness is still in evidence.
Okay, I've listed some books that I like. Now back to my question. Is it healthy for fantasy to become more edgy. In my opinion, yes. It is. I have to admit, I find it hard to defend this opinion with my background. Being a member of the LDS church, I am expected to stay away from certain types of entertainment. Nowhere is it stated in church doctrine that we can't watch R rated movies, or read certain types of literature (except pornographic... that is a no, and has been stated as such many times). Members of the church have been cautioned to "leave the obscene unseen." Because of this, the majority of church members are uncomfortable with, and avoid altogether, anything with adult themes of violence, sex, drugs, language, etc. I have no problem with this. I think it's great that people have personal standards that they stick to. It doesn't stop me from suggesting certain movies or books, though, because I do have a different view on the subject than most.
For me, a story is much more powerful if it begins in a dark place. And this is easily done in film and literature by showing certain content. I don't think it is the only way, or even the best, but it is effective. For me, if the story has the good ending I've already talked about, the payoff--emotionally, spiritually--is so much more powerful if a character has had to get through hell in order to succeed. This is why I love George R.R. Martin's books so much. His characters suffer through so much, that when they accomplish something good, it makes me want to pump my fist in the air for them. It literally lifts me. Another example is the Kite Runner. (the book, not the movie). The light at the end of the tunnel in that story was when a suicidal kid smiles because the main character says a line to him, I paraphrase: "for you, a thousand times over." If you've read the book, you know what I'm talking about. That line has such a punch, and that novel was so dark... you can't help but feel positive about the story as a whole. I do not believe the ending of Kite Runner would have been anywhere near as emotional and uplifting if the tale hadn't been as gritty and dark as it was.
The one big problem I have with The Wheel of Time series is that it isn't dark enough. It never quite grows up with its characters. In my mind, it will forever be a YA epic. That doesn't tarnish it in the least. I love Robert Jordan's world. The WoT is what got me into fantasy. But I can't ever get as excited about reading it as I was in high school, because my taste has changed so much in the last ten years.
Again, it is hard for me to defend why I think the gritty fantasies are healthy. There's no question that some of them go too far, and I've felt dirtied by reading them. But I made the choice years ago that it was worth some of those stinkers in order to find the truly beautiful stories. I don't know if I made the right choice, but I do know that I've read and seen a hundred stories worth reading and seeing.
So, what do you think? Does fantasy need to take a step back from realistic world and character descriptions--gritty violence, language, and other dark themes, or is it healthy for the genre to grow into adulthood, where there is room for all types of storytelling?
That's all.
(The covers I posted for Best Served Cold and The Heroes are the new paperback covers coming out from Orbit sometime in the future. I love them! Wish Pyr would put new covers on the trilogy).
I really like how Joe is writing his stories. He started off with a trilogy, known as The First Law series. The books, in order, are: The Blade Itself, Before they are hanged, and Last Argument of Kings. And then he did two "standalones" Best Served Cold, and The Heroes (they take place in the same world as the First Law trio). I've read through all of them in a six month period, so am still quite familiar with each. Anyway, back to a review (sort of). I loved the trilogy. I finally found books as good as--or as close to as good as to make no difference to me--the first three books in George R.R. Martin's massive epic, A Song of Ice and Fire. Abercrombie's characters in the First Law series have such distinct voices, interesting pasts, and human flaws, that I think they are among my favorite to read about. Abercrombie's humor is dark, yet poignant; charming, yet frightening. He has such an understanding of the gray areas of morality that I find myself more than a little uncomfortable at imagining myself doing similar things as his characters, if placed in similar situations. If you haven't read any Abercrombie, start with The First Law series, and treat yourself to some amazing dark fantasy. You deserve it.
Abercrombie's first standalone, Best Served Cold, went too far down the dark road for my taste. It is a revenge tale all too comfortable with the idea of killing people to feel better. It is set five or so years after the end of Last Argument of Kings. Some of the minor characters in the trilogy are now the major ones in this book. I think it's cool when authors do this, though David Farland/Wolverton advises against it. Dave has said that an author will likely lose readers if he/she writes books in the same world with different viewpoint characters. (He did the very same thing in the later Runelord books and claims the drop in sales was noticeable). Abercrombie, however, is only gaining in popularity, so I hope that he is able to continue to pull it off the way he is doing it. I prefer shorter series (I blogged about this a few weeks back) but enjoy returning to familiar worlds.
In the beginning of Best Served Cold, there is a character who is trying to be "a better man." (SPOILER ALERT) I thought he gave up too easily on his goals. The main character, a woman who is trying to kill seven men responsible for her brother's death, seems too unchanged by the murders she commits throughout the story. My personal favorite revenge story is The Count of Monte Cristo (the book, not the awful Hollywood trash made into a movie ten years ago). Edmund really struggled with the man he was becoming in that book, and in the end, decided revenge wasn't what he wanted after all. Now I'm not saying every character who sets out for vengeance should make this decision in the end, but I wish Abercrombie would have shown his characters struggle a bit more. Okay, a lot more. But that's just me. I was just expecting different outcomes from the story. Not because he promised me a different outcome, though. He does a wonderful job at fulfilling every promise he makes to the reader in Best Served Cold.
On to The Heroes. It took me a couple of months to get to this one. I read Best Served Cold the week after I finished The First Law trilogy, thinking it would be more of the same Abercrombie, but was so put off by it that I didn't want to dive in to another one of Joe's books for a while. I read (listened to, really. I don't read much these days) ten or so books between BSC and Heroes, giving myself several months off of Abercrombie. (Aspiring writers, keep this in mind. Don't write a book that will turn readers off to your future stories!) I always knew I'd get to Heroes, however, because Abercrombie kicks ass. I just had to distance myself from BSC for a while. I'm happy to say that Heroes is nowhere near as dark as BSC, but it wasn't as memorable, either. The one good thing I can say (there's several good things, but I won't get into all of them right now) about BSC is that I reacted very strongly to its characters (just in a negative way). Only the best of writers can make me do this. Anyway, I'm getting off track. Heroes doesn't have any characters that are memorable. Oh sure, I remember all of them today. But that' s because I just finished the book last Friday. A month from now I'm betting I'll have forgotten half of them. By next year, probably all of them. I really wish there had been someone to latch on to in Heroes, but there just wasn't.
So, yes, Heroes is the weakest of Abercrombie's work. That isn't to say that it was boring, though. I still enjoyed the listen. And I'll still eagerly buy his next. Everyone writing fantasy today should read Abercrombie.
The Heroes gets 3 out of 5 stars.
Okay. Abercrombie was only half the reason for this post. I wanted to bring up some things that I've noticed about fantasy literature, post George R.R. Martin. Hopefully, we can have a discussion on this--which means you have to leave comments!
During the last decade there has been a slew of gritty, amoral fantasy. (I am in no way saying it didn't exist before then, only that I wasn't aware of it until reading GRRM about 8 years ago). Authors that I would consider to fall under this category are: George R.R. Martin, Joe Abercrombie, Scott Lynch, Ari Marmell, Daniel Polansky, and many others. These I've listed I have read, and so can reference their work. George, Joe, and Scott are quite popular, Ari and Daniel less so. (I'd never heard of either until recently). My question, that I hope to have some answers on, is do you think that this trend--gritty, violent, gray fantasy--is healthy? R rated fantasy, if you want a movie rating comparison.
Personally, I like the darker tales best. As long as they have a good ending. What constitutes a good ending differs from reader to reader, of course. But in my opinion, it has to include one very important thing: someone, whether protagonist, antagonist, or villain, has to become better by the end of the story. Better meaning good, or on the path to being good, or they've redeemed some past deed in some way. Who decides what is good or not? I do... for the books that I read. For example, (possible spoilers if you haven't read the third book in GRRM's series... or any of them for that matter. Skip the next paragraph if you wish to avoid them). Jaime Lannister.
Jaime begins A Song of Ice and Fire as one of the vilest, despicable characters I've ever read. He is in an incestuous relationship with his sister--who happens to be married to the king--he throws a child off the top of a tower, causing the child to be paralyzed from the waist down, he murdered the king he was sworn to guard 16 years in the past... the list goes on and on. He is seen as a villain in the first couple of books. Well, he gets captured in a battle, gets thrown in a dungeon, and eats a few slices of humble pie. In the third book, A Storm of Swords, he (BIG SPOILER) gets his sword hand cut off and can no longer act as a knight. At this point, he starts turning into, if not an honorable character, a sympathetic one. By the end of book 3, I was liking him more than any other character in the series... because he was on the path to becoming good--by trying to regain some of his spoiled honor. He was still a cocky jerk, but was starting to realize he didn't like being the cocky jerk. So for me, he had started on the road to redemption.
Scott Lynch's Gentlemen Bastard sequence (only two have been written, with five more planned) is another dark fantasy that I love (no spoilers). The first book, The Lies of Locke Lamora, is about a group of thieves out to screw the rich in their city. Their underground world is gritty, full of violence and filthy language. However, the main characters themselves are extremely likable because of their loyalty to each other, and their highly entertaining heists. I didn't have to get to the ending to like the characters in this book. I feel that this series so far is a lot more black and white than others mentioned, but the heroes are still thieves, so the grayness is still in evidence.
Okay, I've listed some books that I like. Now back to my question. Is it healthy for fantasy to become more edgy. In my opinion, yes. It is. I have to admit, I find it hard to defend this opinion with my background. Being a member of the LDS church, I am expected to stay away from certain types of entertainment. Nowhere is it stated in church doctrine that we can't watch R rated movies, or read certain types of literature (except pornographic... that is a no, and has been stated as such many times). Members of the church have been cautioned to "leave the obscene unseen." Because of this, the majority of church members are uncomfortable with, and avoid altogether, anything with adult themes of violence, sex, drugs, language, etc. I have no problem with this. I think it's great that people have personal standards that they stick to. It doesn't stop me from suggesting certain movies or books, though, because I do have a different view on the subject than most.
For me, a story is much more powerful if it begins in a dark place. And this is easily done in film and literature by showing certain content. I don't think it is the only way, or even the best, but it is effective. For me, if the story has the good ending I've already talked about, the payoff--emotionally, spiritually--is so much more powerful if a character has had to get through hell in order to succeed. This is why I love George R.R. Martin's books so much. His characters suffer through so much, that when they accomplish something good, it makes me want to pump my fist in the air for them. It literally lifts me. Another example is the Kite Runner. (the book, not the movie). The light at the end of the tunnel in that story was when a suicidal kid smiles because the main character says a line to him, I paraphrase: "for you, a thousand times over." If you've read the book, you know what I'm talking about. That line has such a punch, and that novel was so dark... you can't help but feel positive about the story as a whole. I do not believe the ending of Kite Runner would have been anywhere near as emotional and uplifting if the tale hadn't been as gritty and dark as it was.
The one big problem I have with The Wheel of Time series is that it isn't dark enough. It never quite grows up with its characters. In my mind, it will forever be a YA epic. That doesn't tarnish it in the least. I love Robert Jordan's world. The WoT is what got me into fantasy. But I can't ever get as excited about reading it as I was in high school, because my taste has changed so much in the last ten years.
Again, it is hard for me to defend why I think the gritty fantasies are healthy. There's no question that some of them go too far, and I've felt dirtied by reading them. But I made the choice years ago that it was worth some of those stinkers in order to find the truly beautiful stories. I don't know if I made the right choice, but I do know that I've read and seen a hundred stories worth reading and seeing.
So, what do you think? Does fantasy need to take a step back from realistic world and character descriptions--gritty violence, language, and other dark themes, or is it healthy for the genre to grow into adulthood, where there is room for all types of storytelling?
That's all.
(The covers I posted for Best Served Cold and The Heroes are the new paperback covers coming out from Orbit sometime in the future. I love them! Wish Pyr would put new covers on the trilogy).
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